Behind The Curtain: The Downside Of An InfoSec Life | #3

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Rick McElroy Recounts The Stories That No One Is Telling

By Selena Templeton, host of DiverseIT

Carbon Black security strategist Rick McElroy chats with ITSPmagazine’s Selena Templeton for An InfoSec Life about the industry-wide phenomenon that no one is talking about: defender fatigue – part 3.

In this third and final part of his interview, Rick offers a lot of advice, suggestions and resources for our listeners to help anyone out there get started on your own journey to help yourself and not let the InfoSec life kill you. Though the interview focuses on the InfoSec industry, this list of resources is valuable for anyone, whether or not you’re in the industry. We’ve also compiled this info into a handy downloadable infographic for you!

If you haven’t already, I encourage you to listen to all three episodes to Rick’s interview, in order, because it’s the story of his journey into his InfoSec career. This security strategist, leader, and former Marine shares his successes, failures, struggles and triumphs – and as he says, “It’s one of the most personal interviews I have ever done.”

You can also consider Rick a resource and reach out to him on Twitter (@InfoSecRick), find him on LinkedIn or email him at

If you have your own story about this topic you’d like to share, feel free to reach out to me at

Suggestions and Resources for a Healthy Work-Life Balance


    • Massage

    • Full night’s sleep

    • Physical therapy (acupuncture, chiropractic)

    • Exercise regularly (running, hiking, walking, surfing, etc. or even walk around the airport when waiting for a flight instead of sitting there)

    • Healthy eating


    • Therapy

    • Take a mental health day when needed – physical illness is not the only reason you need to rest or recoup

    • Be self aware so that you know where your “mental sweet spot” and can recognize when you’re starting to sink

    • Meditate or at least take 20 minutes every day to get off the hamster wheel and do some reflecting

    • Ask yourself what you can control and what you can’t – and then change even just one thing in your life

    • Unplug from your personal electronics – it’s hard to be present with people who are focused on their electronics  

    • Laugh more! Watch a funny movie or TV show, go see some stand-up comedy, get together with friends and play goofy board games.

    • Get your thoughts out of your head by journaling or writing an angry or hurt letter to someone (and then tear it up or burn it!)


    • Foster good relationships with people you can really talk to, like your friends, spouse, colleagues

    • Invest in your personal development by taking a Tony Robbins workshop or attending The Landmark Forum

    • Let yourself off the hook for failing – and redefine “failure” as “learning”

    • Be okay with not knowing everything. Say the words “I don’t know” and get used to it!

    • Learn to recognize when to sit still and when to take action – like quitting a toxic job or relationship



Listen to Part 3 of the series


Did you miss Part 1 of this series? Don't worry, you can find it here.

Did you miss Part 2 of this series? Don't worry, you can find it here.


Be sure to read Rick's blog post called "Cybersecurity Ain’t Easy. Let’s Talk About It!" in which he discussed his own experience with defender fatigue – an industry-wide phenomenon that not a lot of people are talking about.